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Postby dap-addict on Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:23 am

chris wrote:forget the past and Kovi(i never liked his soft movies) as the future is the 21 Sextury and their models who do anal and dp from the first day! :D


This time I read all three pages and with Gepont - despite Steve declining chris view - I have to say that chris is absolutely right: 21S sells wheter you like it or not. And most girls dont even want to become stars anymore, just shoot an amount x of scenes, earn good money and move on. And nothing is wrong with that - just the times changed! :arrow: :idea:
And while there might be no new Magyar porn superstar, the biz is still makeing good money, shooting lots of scenes for the internet releasing them later on dvd. No story lines for sure, and also no big Private film re-makes, but Hundreds of short gonzo features with Hundreds of new Magyar and foreign girls.
Also, Johnny_Walker, Russian and Ukrainian girls working on Budapest porn sets for lower fees, are nothing new. That´s just the normal way it works - and right so as long as they get payed still good money. But with the current economic crisis in Hungary fees will dwindle anyway and even more local girls will flock in. Thus who really wants to save much on fees will move further to Ukraine I guess.
Does this threaten Budapest as a European Porn Capital? :?
At the moment it doesnt look like. But time will tell.
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Postby gepont on Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:13 am

superduper wrote:It seems that for different reasons both the Czech and Hungarian porn industries are in trouble or in the doldrums. These countries were vying for top spot as porn maker in Europe with close rivalry; so if both are below par, which country is not top porn producer in Europe ? Which city is top porn-making city ? Not Budapest, not Prague ?

I think they still are, by volume (Maybe Ibiza or Portugal match them as locations in the summer months). Rocco, Christoph Clark, Gianfranco and DDF are still live in BP, Woodman has Hungarian girlfriend and they are all shoot in BP or Prague if they're not on an exotic location. Not mention Raul and the 21st Sextury, the sheer volume they shoot on a week is more than any porn fan could follow. The reason you might think there are no new stars is because so many girls are working and they stay for shorter period. In the end they probably shoot the same amount of scenes as Michelle Wild did during her career, only in half of her time or less.
One thing is certain though, more and more foreign girls shooting in these cities, from Romania, Ukraine, Russia, etc. The studios, the infrastructure is there, purpose built (hence overused) villas, crew, equipment to hire, etc. Who wants the trouble in St. Petersburg or in Kiev with the local boys? They cost more than the girls they "protect". And this latter one won't change anytime soon so I think still Budapest and Prague will be the place to be for a while, even for other E-European girls.

I just checked AVN charts, half of the Top 10 been shot in Prague or Budapest and it's America's very own home field.
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Postby gepont on Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:25 am

Steve wrote:Heys Steve and Gepont :)

Awesome feedback and I completely agree with all that was said.

In regards to your photography Gepont, in my opinion your stuff was always top notch. Gergo, Szimpi and yourself always produced photographs of the highest quality, with interesting angles and interesting ideas.

I have photoshoots from Vic's old site where I received your photo's as "behind the scenes" photos to add if I needed. I actually made a comment on the very day that I received them that kinda went along the lines of "how come the BTS images are all crystal clear and exceptional quality, whereas the actual photographs from the shoot photographer are blurry and fuzzy".

I don't know how you always managed to get very high quality photographs all the time (and this can be seen by looking at any shoot on machomedia) but you have my utmost respect. You, and the other guys at machomedia will be most defintely missed.

Steve

Steve, thanks Man! :)
Don't write off Machomedia though, I'd like to believe that sooner than later it will be back as your weekly read. For example I'm moving to LA next month, so MM will have an exclusive Porn Valley contributor. ;)
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Postby Steve on Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:38 am

I will never write off macho. I look forward with eager anticipation towards the day that macho regains its former glory.

I am not sure if you have any contacts in the business in LA, but I can help you out there if needed. I know a few people from my time on a US based site and I know a few big named US models also. PM me if needed mate.

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Postby Mr. Peter on Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:17 pm

Yeah, I still have somewhere stored BTS photographs from shootings in Budapest downloaded off MachoM. They are great.

gepont, I have a question:
How did you and your friends managed from being porn fans running fansite to shoot pictures on most famous world porn sets? You had a friends in the business? Or there was some more official way? Im just curious, Im a hobby phohographer too.


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Postby gepont on Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:09 pm

Mr. Peter wrote:Yeah, I still have somewhere stored BTS photographs from shootings in Budapest downloaded off MachoM. They are great.

gepont, I have a question:
How did you and your friends managed from being porn fans running fansite to shoot pictures on most famous world porn sets? You had a friends in the business? Or there was some more official way? Im just curious, Im a hobby phohographer too.

Well, it wasn't overnight. Gergo and kontentking started MM with some friends, I joined later. We weren't pro photographers, just tried to gather news from the Hungarian Porn Scene. Gergo claims he bought his first digital camera (and carried everywhere with him) to catch ALS Scan shooting those famous Budapest public nudity scenes. We went to erotic festivals, I used to shoot nightclubs and sometimes there were erotic shows in those clubs. Gradually we got more and more contacts and suddenly we realized from feedbacks that most of the industry is our reader, we got more photos from girls like Alma (Ginger Jones) and Dori (Dorothy Black) and others. And eventually we were invited to film shoots by Kovi and Fokusz and others to shoot backstage. Also MM ended up in mainstream media as references and sources when for example we broke the news that the first girl in the Valo Vilag (The Real World, Big Brother style show) was Pandora, a former porn girl, etc.
And then eventually we got paid assigments, the way was similar to what Steve said above, that our photos sometimes were better than the "official" photographers'. When I've moved to London 3 years ago, I went to Photography College and thanks to some Hungarian models I'd met a producer... Gergo, similarly, gained more and more contacts, went to shoots first for free just to shoot BTS for MM and his photos were good enough for Ninn, Viv and Woodman to use them as extras and ultimately he started working as well.
When I told my mates at College that I'm working in porn, there was about twenty volunteers to carry my bags or anything :) But honestly, it's not that fascinating after a few shoots, it's hard work the photographers too and we don't get any benefits like free blowjobs (or no too often ;)) and as I said many of the models are umm... rather simple, they're not a great company if you want to talk about anything else than the very obvious. There are some exceptions though, I know some sweet, intelligent girls and cool guys in the biz and eventually it's more fun to work there than sitting in an office or something. We wouldn't be there otherwise.
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Postby dap-addict on Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:22 pm

Mr. Peter wrote:Im just curious, Im a hobby phohographer too.

I think it´s time for machomedia.cz :wink:
Just get yourself involved, Mr. Peter, that´s it, that´s the way.
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Postby dap-addict on Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:02 pm

Anyone familiar with the current Budapest syphillis situation?
Rumor was there was a panic like in Prague.
I wonder wheter some shootings had to be stopped, too?
Also how many girls cant work for this reason at the moment?
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Postby superduper on Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:18 pm

What, is it as bad as Prague ?

Budapest and Prague, rival cities for Porn Capital of Europe, both deluged by syphilis ?

Did it spread from the Czech models on an international shoot, or was it home grown ?
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Postby gepont on Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:03 pm

I talked to an agent yesterday about a next week shoot, he said he doesn't know any syph. cases in Budapest. As far as I know the shoots are going in order.
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Postby dap-addict on Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:12 pm

gepont wrote:I talked to an agent yesterday about a next week shoot, he said he doesn't know any syph. cases in Budapest. As far as I know the shoots are going in order.


That´s good news, indeed! :)
Would have been too bad if Budapest was hit by that Ibiza incident as well. All I heard concerned one Magyar girl. I guess she got negative test results meanwhile.
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Postby Mr. Peter on Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:33 pm

Gepont, thank you for further explainig! Its sounds very nice, sure you had a good luck too, which is obvious.
Well, lets say, I find myself now in the middle of my trip to something like you did.
I shot last year in Prague Erotic fair, well unfortunately not had new camera already, so the pictures was so so. But I enjoyed it a lot.
But especially in Prague there is a high concetration of good photographers shooting similar stuff, so its then even harder to manage to
something more. To have a good luck is needed as always.


gepont wrote:But honestly, it's not that fascinating after a few shoots, it's hard work the photographers too and we don't get any benefits like free blowjobs (or no too often ;))


Yeah, I know it already. But it doesnt bother me at all. I have very little experience shooting nude or porn, but rather glamour, music video shooting, or generally people, but I can say I know what is all about.

gepont wrote:it's more fun to work there than sitting in an office or something. We wouldn't be there otherwise.


Yeah, definitely. The fun and enjoyment is the main reason for me trying to do it.


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Postby Vaudou on Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:36 am

steve cross wrote:
superduper wrote:Bianca Golden (Szofya Cox) is new and young and Hungarian and could be something big with the right promotion.

How come Kovi hasn't recruited her for Luxx yet, or has he ?

She might be the next big Hungarian star. Check out her pic on EBI. She has got what it takes.


Bianca Golden would never become a big star, and she stopped porn right after she got into it... She started with me, doing solo and g/g scenes, but from each of her new jobs, she came back with a new agent or manager, stepping into hardcore... But after all that's been sad and done, she landed at a so-called agent called topi, a 400 pounds-heavy guy, who calls himself an agent, but he cannot speak any foreign languages, and sometimes he has problems with Hungarian too... (and he is Hungarian :twisted: :twisted: ) - when Bianca worked with this guy, she was doing 15 b/g scenes in 3 weeks for 21sextury and DDF, and after seeing her works, and speaking to her, i realized, that she hates sex (she does, just check her b/g scene for 21sextury with Kid Jamaica) - and she told me she hates to suck as well...

After 2 months in the business her boyfriend realized that she is doing adult stuff, so he showed every videos to Bianca's mother, and after that, the mother sent her back to Romania (where she was born, and her father still lives there) to think about continuing her life on another ways.

Now, it looks, that she will not go back to porn for "minimally" a long time (never say never), but after looking at her scenes, it doesn't seem to be a big loss for the industry... :twisted: :twisted: 8) 8) :?


Noooo.... She was my favourite eurogirls at this time... So beautiful...

I think you are bad mouth, she was really great performer in a "shy style"

You say 15 b/g scenes... So If it's not a lie, I hope we'll see more with Szofya and boys in the future...
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Postby sbando on Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:46 am

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Postby steve cross on Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:59 am

Vaudou wrote:
steve cross wrote:
superduper wrote:Bianca Golden (Szofya Cox) is new and young and Hungarian and could be something big with the right promotion.

How come Kovi hasn't recruited her for Luxx yet, or has he ?

She might be the next big Hungarian star. Check out her pic on EBI. She has got what it takes.


Bianca Golden would never become a big star, and she stopped porn right after she got into it... She started with me, doing solo and g/g scenes, but from each of her new jobs, she came back with a new agent or manager, stepping into hardcore... But after all that's been sad and done, she landed at a so-called agent called topi, a 400 pounds-heavy guy, who calls himself an agent, but he cannot speak any foreign languages, and sometimes he has problems with Hungarian too... (and he is Hungarian :twisted: :twisted: ) - when Bianca worked with this guy, she was doing 15 b/g scenes in 3 weeks for 21sextury and DDF, and after seeing her works, and speaking to her, i realized, that she hates sex (she does, just check her b/g scene for 21sextury with Kid Jamaica) - and she told me she hates to suck as well...

After 2 months in the business her boyfriend realized that she is doing adult stuff, so he showed every videos to Bianca's mother, and after that, the mother sent her back to Romania (where she was born, and her father still lives there) to think about continuing her life on another ways.

Now, it looks, that she will not go back to porn for "minimally" a long time (never say never), but after looking at her scenes, it doesn't seem to be a big loss for the industry... :twisted: :twisted: 8) 8) :?


Noooo.... She was my favourite eurogirls at this time... So beautiful...

I think you are bad mouth, she was really great performer in a "shy style"

You say 15 b/g scenes... So If it's not a lie, I hope we'll see more with Szofya and boys in the future...


Roxy Panther is beautiful, Alexis is beautiful, but you can see on their scenes, that the moves, the sounds and everything are fake, and they perform with closed eyes, and doesnt move at all... So as Bianca Golden... They dont like sex and/or they dont know how to fuck at all...
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