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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby Ricardo Soli on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:44 am

Billbo wrote:If this Blacklist works, it may reduce the drug use or problem drinking of some models. If they can't get work because they were too stoned or drunk to show up and it becomes a consistent pattern like some hollywood types, well, there's nothing like "economics" to get a person's attention. Lindsey Lohan is well on her way to that fate, thanks to loving her parties, drugs, and booze more than her job. At some point it will get bad enough that she won't get work. That is what it often takes for a person to take stock of what they are doing.

There's no reason why it couldn't work for the porn industry.

However, there have to be some safeguards. Some of the agencies, directors and producers in porn are not very honest.

Perhaps there should be a blacklist for them.


And what about directors taking the joint with models on shooting ? Just to create a good ambiance for work :roll: Or other stuffs ?
Just remember my advices on topics of Ann Marie La Sante, Amirah Adara, etc.... Everybody jumped on me, and all my competitors were fuckin happy to get 2 girls I don't want to make them working anymore. And my list is continuing....
So welcome to my competitors if they start to wake up, before is too late for them 8)
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby dap-addict on Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:36 pm

Billbo wrote:If this Blacklist works, it may reduce the drug use or problem drinking of some models.

Looks like you open a pandora box here! :(
If a girl does drugs or drinks but still turns up on set in time and performs what she`s asked on set than its nobodies busines what she takes into her body! :idea:
I hope the people starting this black list - a very good idea IHMO! - know where to draw the line!
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby Ricardo Soli on Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:49 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Billbo wrote:If this Blacklist works, it may reduce the drug use or problem drinking of some models.

Looks like you open a pandora box here! :(
If a girl does drugs or drinks but still turns up on set in time and performs what she`s asked on set than its nobodies busines what she takes into her body! :idea:
I hope the people starting this black list - a very good idea IHMO! - know where to draw the line!


I don't want to open pandoras boxes :( And I don't really agree with you, even if a girl is showing up in time at the shooting. She have to be at her mind, and to perform well without any drugs ! Any drugs.... I had problems in my past because of model telling in the TV ( in a reality show) she was drunk when she agreed to work in porn accepting the drink offered by the director, and me as agent of her I was there :( She was only forgot, first she agreed to do porn, after she did her scene, and later when we were at the dinner with the production team, she was so happy, and wanted to have fun, than she asked if she can drink on the count of the production. Which is'nt the same as story. And is'nt so good to the producer, or to the agency is making working this kind of models :(
There are plenty of models in this financial crisis, woul be glad to work without any drug, stupefiant-help.
What they do in they're private time, nobody cares, but I think better they don't take drugs before shooting night, and show up clean in the morning :roll:
Secondly, better they do porn and accept to work because they like to perform in porn, not because they just need immediately a new dose of drug :idea: Later theese ones will be the first ones will hate all thgey're past spended in the adult biz, those people were helping them to earn those spended money-they're agents.
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby mard04 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:30 am

From this day forward, I will only support those girls blacklisted in this forumn.
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby dap-addict on Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:24 pm

Ricardo Soli wrote:I don't want to open pandoras boxes :( And I don't really agree with you, even if a girl is showing up in time at the shooting. She have to be at her mind...

No problem, Ricardo, I agree with you. :)
But the world is not ideal. And as not every girl we would wish to do porn does actually do it - and not every girl actually doing it it, is drug free. :idea:
Instead of opening a discussion who does drugs and who doenst, I`d hope everybody agrees its just not our busines as long as she turns up on set and performs fine.
In the other cases she gets sent home anyway. At least I hope so! And if such a case repeats she belongs on a black list, I think.
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Be careful with these Model Abby from Russia

Postby Michaelberl on Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:44 pm

Please be careful. She do not show up to the shooting today here in Praha CZ - Phone is OFF - no answer - no sorry !!
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/abby_2.html

Fucking idiotic girls makes our difficult biz more difficult
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby robot on Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:01 pm

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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby deltagamma74 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:12 pm

I agree with those saying that the issue is complicated/complex but I also think that this list and similar ones, as long as they are taken and used in a constructive way, may help in having less troubles/waste of time by photographers, make up artists, producers, agencies and all those concerned with the business. Less realistically, but not necessarily a utopia, maybe even the silliest girl can change her mind and understand how important is behaving professionally for their future.
From my own experience I can speak about Mia, Monicca, Silvie de Lux, Whitney and Vanessa Jordin for erotic shootings.
I was supposed to shoot once with Mia in 2010 but she cancelled an hour before, allegedly because - after one week of emails/messages - she got "scared" all of a sudden.
I shot with Monicca twice in 2010, and it was quite nice, she showed to be professional during the shooting and we both liked it, although the next times I tried to arrange other shootings she would not answer not even to say she was not interested.
With Vanessa Jordin I shot also twice in 2009, and I was quite satisfied in both cases, she was nice and was at the shooting in time. We kept in touch during these 3 years and although I don't think I'm gonna shoot her again I think that she would not behave differently.
I leave SIlvie de Lux and Whitney as the last ones: I shot with both of them once, in 2009 with Silvie and last year with Whitney. At the shooting I have not much to complain, except the fact that they seemed to be rather annoyed and cold, but that didn't affect too much the shooting. For both it was the start of the career, so I guess they were interested in their first money. After that, I tried to arrange 2 or 3 more times shootings with them, and every time they kept confirming until the last minuted but finally didn't show up and never answered phone calls or emails not even to try to find an excuse. About Whitney, I think she cancelled 3 times in the last year, making me waste every time a full day of shooting (I went to Prague from Italy to shoot 4-5 days and one of these was with her). I must say that the last time, last week, I wanted to give her a last try but I already had a backup model ready to shoot in case she cancelled once again. Of course she confirmed everything until the day before, I had even agreed on letting her go 1h before the finish time initially decided because she needed to go to the dentist, but when I checked messages the night before the shooting, she just wtote me that she was not sure she would come as the dentist was not going to do her the work she wanted, so it was not worth it to move from her town to Prague for only 300 euro + travel. Of course she never answered phone calls or replied my emails.
From my point of view, girls like Silvie or Whitney deserve the same treatment they do others: I will book one of them again for very good money and agree on an early start time somewhere in Prague. Everything will be perfect for them, until when they will find out that the nobody is there to shoot with them. In the end they will have woken up early in the morning, spent money for the trip, travelled 3-4 hours and finally find out that it was all a joke or a lesson, depending on the point of view. Maybe they will learn. If they don't they are just too stupid.
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:07 am

of course in the beginning they are reliable, because they dont know their market value and need the money. but once they have a regular income of a few thousand euros per month it can change. than it is like with most women they will test borders to see how much they can allow. when they are unreliable the first time and it doesnt have negative consequences to them they will do it again and again. it is also because producers give them a 2nd or even a 3rd chance. the message for them than is that they feel like a queen or princess and think they can do what they want. but now that coordination of producers and agents can be that negative consequences for them.
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby robot on Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:51 pm

deltagamma74 wrote:she just wtote me that she was not sure she would come as the dentist was not going to do her the work she wanted, so it was not worth it to move from her town to Prague for only 300 euro + travel. Of course she never answered phone calls or replied my emails.
...Maybe they will learn. If they don't they are just too stupid.


that's 100% whitney :)))))
she will never learn. it's not a matter of reward.she behaves exactly the same way even if it's something she really wants... :)
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby teamcrm on Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:58 pm

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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby deltagamma74 on Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:02 am

robot wrote:
deltagamma74 wrote:she just wtote me that she was not sure she would come as the dentist was not going to do her the work she wanted, so it was not worth it to move from her town to Prague for only 300 euro + travel. Of course she never answered phone calls or replied my emails.
...Maybe they will learn. If they don't they are just too stupid.


that's 100% whitney :)))))
she will never learn. it's not a matter of reward.she behaves exactly the same way even if it's something she really wants... :)


I just found out that Whitney is reading this blog, she quoted my post laughing at it..
So that's the proof that she just doesn't care.. I am curious to know how she feels about being in a black list and therefore being aware of her behaviour. Is her just too childish? Will her make up her mind? We'll see, I may give her another chance (having a backup model ready in any case..).
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby robot on Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:48 pm

deltagamma74 wrote:
robot wrote:
deltagamma74 wrote:she just wtote me that she was not sure she would come as the dentist was not going to do her the work she wanted, so it was not worth it to move from her town to Prague for only 300 euro + travel. Of course she never answered phone calls or replied my emails.
...Maybe they will learn. If they don't they are just too stupid.


that's 100% whitney :)))))
she will never learn. it's not a matter of reward.she behaves exactly the same way even if it's something she really wants... :)


I just found out that Whitney is reading this blog, she quoted my post laughing at it..
So that's the proof that she just doesn't care.. I am curious to know how she feels about being in a black list and therefore being aware of her behaviour. Is her just too childish? Will her make up her mind? We'll see, I may give her another chance (having a backup model ready in any case..).


yes i gave her a login to this forum when she started as model.
as for you, you know what they say... "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me".
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby Billbo on Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:18 pm

I don't know what the laws are in Europe, but in the U.S. if a woman is stoned, high, drunk, or otherwise loaded (even slightly) she can't consent to sex. Never mind that it's so common for couples to have a beer, cocktail, or a glass of wine before bed. Nor is the law ever enforced the other way, such as the common practice of women taking advantage of a guy who is out of it.

In the U.S., even though many porn actresses use drugs and it hasn't been tested much, it's only a matter of time to where the laws regarding drugs/booze are enforced on the set. A woman may well sign a contract, say yes, etc., but if she's on drugs or tipsy, she cannot do a scene legally, even though it's regularly done.

What happens when a woman smoked a joint a couple of days before and she shows up on the set still somewhat out of it, does her scene, has a great time, then feels guilty later, then claims that she couldn't consent and files a complaint? It'll happen at some point. Porn actresses are often not the most honest people.

While it can be argued that a person can do whatever they want to themselves, but what about when they can't do their job because of it?

What if they make it unsafe for others? A person doesn't make the best decisions when loaded. Besides the legal issue, there have been porn actresses that have understandably quit because of the drugs. It's far less safe to have loaded people because they make mistakes, from basic practices on the set, to having accidents that wouldn't have happened if a person was completely sober.
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Re: BLACK LIST

Postby radfords on Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:36 pm

There is the same law in the U.K. A woman cannot legally consent to a sexual act if she is under the influence of alcohol. I'm sure that it has played a part in the demise of one of the few genuine amateur sites on the internet - Loverboys. The girls at these shows were predominantly amateurs and usually drunk - this would now be classified as rape.
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