gbman2k7 wrote:I do think that a lot of them were tricked, so do a lot of people on that form.
Seriously... 4chan? The stuff they post on there is a mixture of half truths and a bunch of nonsense users pulled out of thin air.. "*** wanted to break the will of the girls" "Monro was on crack" "Torbe used homeless guys in bukkake" and other stupid shit. Now they're writing paragraphs about how supposedly the girls were all tricked into doing their scenes, and citing bullshit articles by el pais and el espanol from June 2016 which I covered in this thread extensively and based on the details we knew at that point, suspected to be bullshit...
...and it was, all of it, which is why they dropped all charges related to it...
Mike Munroe wrote:Somehow I got stucked in this thread, lots of controverse and discussion here. I would like to summarize my opinion as follows:
1. No, he financed the project, after approaching Torbe to partner with him. Other people acted as the agents, then there was Mila the translator. The team wasn't very big, which is why they needed Torbe's existing business to make *** concept a reality.
2. The site by default blocks users from Ukraine, Russia and other post Soviet countries by default. It's true that the exact number of men that would take part per bukkake was not known until on the day, but the idea that the girls were somehow tricked again just regurgitates the same crap the media was spouting, which again I stress was complete rubbish. All the girls knew what they were doing, they were given details of the kind of shoot it would be, they were sent videos of existing bukkakes so they could see visually what they would do. They then did the photo shoots in Kiev before getting the right documents to go to Madrid and perform the scenes themselves.
They had to sign documents which were all translated to them fully before they could shoot, said documents were all shown to the judge and police as well as relating tax receipts, everything was found to be in order (money laundering/tax evasion charges dropped). If they were tricked, how is it that they ended up doing two or three scenes each? "Elya sorry about misleading you to drink 55 loads, next time it'll only be 15 loads promise" Oops, tricked again twice! Not only that, but she came back again and did another two scenes months later. Doesn't make much sense does it?
Also as you'll know from reading the thread, Elya and Milena know each other, they're not the only ones... plus girls knew the agents. If they had been tricked, word of mouth would have gotten around pretty quick about it. So let's put this myth of the poor tricked Ukrainians to bed once for all, they weren't delicate little flowers who found themselves in a sticky (lol) situation, they participated willingly, and knew what they were in for. Isabel, Ines and all those other girls lied their asses off because they didn't want to take responsibility for being involved and tried to make out that they were silenced and it was all a massive human trafficking operation. Lies, all of it.
3. I don't know what the GGG girls are paid, but the Ukrainians were paid up to €3000 per scene, perhaps some were paid less because they had less guys, I don't know specifics but they certainly weren't paid "€300". Plus all expenses were paid for accommodation too.
4. "Well that's just like your opinion man..." Torbe does raw amateur shoots, what kind of fancy camera angles would be needed for such material?
5. Yes.. covered extensively, which is why it'll be a miracle if any of the those girls return in new shoots again.