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Their content has changed in a somewhat significant way lately and as a result there has been a couple of "going downhill" threads on their forums, describing recent lack of quality, talent management issues and the aftermath of pissing ban. However, discussions at their forums seem small-time enough and I think this particular problem is about changes any European producer should be aware of. Plus you guys definitely have more experience with such things and surely have something to say. So I thought of having a similar thread here.

What do you think?
Have legalporno/sineplex really gone downhill lately losing their trademark quality? Were they even "on the hill" and who actually is there?
How long will it take a hardcore website to take the vanilla route these days?

For my part, the only fact of leaving behind the idea of girls giving the finger at the end of a scene is one huge disappointment. And I do hope they dropped it accidentally by mistake without a lobby of aging pornstars and censors involved.

First of all thanks for opening this conversation.

"Rise and Fall" - what a title.

Hmmm, let me think. Was legalporno ever so much at the top that they could be falling?
And is legalporno really going downhill? I somehow doubt both.

Sure, as of April First 2015 the production of scenes containing pissing was stopped and since than hardly pissing scenes have been published at legalporno. Which IMHO is very sad, because the addition of pissing to gonzo style sex is very intriguing, very hot. Thus being my personal opinion - the opinion of someone who started watching porn in the early 1980's, when especially the ColorClimaxCorporation had a very nice output of sexy scenes containing pissing. In a way legalporno was bringing that extra kick back to porn.
Now they don't. Which saved lots of my money.

I hope someone will step up. V.I.Pissy stills holds the flag for those of us who enjoy watching piss scenes. Most unfortunately they only once in a month publish a boy/girl scene.

Well, I would not specifically point out pissing and make it the only meaning of success, moreover it was discussed many times here and elsewhere.

I should say that a viewer obviously needs variety and a change of pace, not the ordinary "foreplay-intercourse" routine (even if you change it to DP-DAP-TAP). Some content makers profit from filming girls talking on the phone to their "ex", applying makeup and whatsoever but the majority still fail in that department. With that said, I really appreciate "out-of-the-box" thinking Legalporno had, even if this was presented as pissing and enema games. Now that it's gone, there is a void they seem to struggle filling.

I been a member on LP since the start, and i don't see how it is falling.

The camerawork has improved since the start although sometimes the filming seems half assed, which I think can be attributed to the fact that it is basically a conveyor belt type of shooting where they shoot like 3-4 scenes a day back to back. It is basically like harder version of Brazzers. Sure the piss ban made the scenes less varied, but I never was a huge fan of piss. Recently they even started to experiment with different locations than the white room, but the locations have been quite a hit or miss.

One thing I really like about LP (but some don't) is that they often shoot many scenes with the same girl, which is great if you like the girl. Most sites shoot a girl couple times only.

For my taste they also seem to focus on DAP stuff too much, but this is also main thing that makes them pretty unique.

All in all LP is the best site at the moment if you like anal sex

But if the reason you liked the site was Piss or Kreme scenes I understand why you would think the site has fallen.

The thing that would make LP Legendary would be if LP and Pierre/JulModels could sort their problems with each other and we would see JulModel girls on LP more regularly.

due to some legal issues they will change their name to

Mr_White wrote:First of all thanks for opening this conversation.

"Rise and Fall" - what a title.

Hmmm, let me think. Was legalporno ever so much at the top that they could be falling?
And is legalporno really going downhill? I somehow doubt both.

Sure, as of April First 2015 the production of scenes containing pissing was stopped and since than hardly pissing scenes have been published at legalporno. Which IMHO is very sad, because the addition of pissing to gonzo style sex is very intriguing, very hot. Thus being my personal opinion - the opinion of someone who started watching porn in the early 1980's, when especially the ColorClimaxCorporation had a very nice output of sexy scenes containing pissing. In a way legalporno was bringing that extra kick back to porn.
Now they don't. Which saved lots of my money.

I hope someone will step up. V.I.Pissy stills holds the flag for those of us who enjoy watching piss scenes. Most unfortunately they only once in a month publish a boy/girl scene.

Really, LP are not shooting pissing scenes for 15 months?Boy, I'm out of it.But, I have always been more interested in fucking pornstars myself than watching some other guys fuck them.I'm not saying I do not watch porn(well, there's certain content I do not watch at all, Woodman stuff for example).I'd be lying if I'd say such a thing, but it is really rare lately.As for LP, I think they fucking rule.Their scenes with 3-5 or 8-11 guys destroying asses of the girls with anal, DA & TAP are awesome.Pissing scenes, were epic too.So, I hope they will bring pissing scenes back & continue with even more brutal ass destroying.

opap wrote: due to some legal issues they will change their name to

You think you're funny with your infantile stuff?You're not, so just stop it.

maxxx wrote:Really, LP are not shooting pissing scenes for 15 months?Boy, I'm out of it.

Other pornographers report that they’ve had to remove pissing scenes (bodily waste), fisting (extreme violence), and any mention of fantasy nonconsent—even when it’s a model sharing in her bio that she enjoys consensual “force fantasies.”

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-se ... nline-porn

On a side note, I hope LP eventually finds workarounds, goes Bitcoin or whatever, I'd love to see a new rise again

As director at LP I can tell you a simple reason why I do not shoot wet content anymore: according to CZ law degrading a woman is considered a criminal offense. To piss on one girl could be easily considered as degrading and my company is sit in CZ and I live in Cz.

Then, tell me what ever you want about that pissing is not degrading anyone, but then ask to your neighbor, to the butcher and to the grocer what they think. I do not really want to get involved in questionable situations.

The management of LP gave this rule last year without to specify any special reason, so I asked to my lawyer to investigated, his report was very clear. Also the company that run LP is sit in Cz, so this is the main reason IMHO

Then, in CZ there is a long "pissing history", its crazy that for most the girl in Cz is more easy to shoot pissing then anal (which is ridiculous IMHO)

Personally I think pissing is a huge limitation for any website. Its true that pissing attracts a niche of fans, but is also true that for most of people pissing is disgusting and would limit LP to growth on long term.

Pissing content are easy and fast money, but it can be risky for a big site/company/structure like LP e CO.

LP is the best anal website of the word, there are no doubts about this, if you like anal on LP you find what you wish. On the other side is very expensive, but the production cost of the daily releases at LP its average what the others Euro Website invest for create the updates of one full month.
Without to count how much scenes a model can perform at LP in long term, most of other website shoot a model 1/2 time and thats it. At LP a good model can shoot more then one scene/month in average for years.



I hope everyone understand the point

Finally an answer, thx!

replace piss with huge blowbang and bukkake and nobody will complain Giorgio

giorgiograndi wrote:Then, in CZ there is a long "pissing history", its crazy that for most the girl in Cz is more easy to shoot pissing then anal (which is ridiculous IMHO)

Personally I think pissing is a huge limitation for any website. Its true that pissing attracts a niche of fans, but is also true that for most of people pissing is disgusting and would limit LP to growth on long term.

Thanks for the hint, I need to find a czech girlfriend !
Btw, if there was a way to release pissing scenes outside LP would you do it, or still too risky ?

Banning fetish like piss or kreme (not confirmed but it's not happening anymore) is one thing, but that wouldn't necessarily result in a "fall".
But (looking at the trailers every once in a while) there seems to be a huge lack of creativity.

It's almost always the same or a very similar setting. The girls look roughly the same, the action is mostly the same.
it's like they have a blueprint of a scene and now replicate it a 1000 times. The faces change slightly but if you don't look close, you can barely notice it.

Of course, if you are really into that blueprint (mostly means if you are into DAP), then you are in porn heaven, but otherwise forget about it.
If that's not the case, you might get bored very fast.

Seems its about quanity over quality. Many of the scenes are gangbangs. More cock isn't always better.
The white room is nice but getting repetative, they need new props/room and make things exciting again.

^&^^ As far as I can tell the white room, white furniture, bright lighting and extreme anal penetration has been the trademark of LP for at least 2-3 years. I can't see them changing that unless they see a significant drop-off in memberships or purchased tokens. The disappearance of any watersport related fetish within their videos is not an issue for me because I'm not really into it. I don't think adding bukkakes, gokuns or blowbangs would be a good business decision because these are in many ways just as unpopular as pissing scenes. yes there are people that absolutely love them and they tell you any chance they get but they are in the minority. if they weren't than there would be tons of sites willing to shoot those types of fetishes. Unlike pissing that can get you in legal trouble. Fetishes involving large amounts of semen aren't a problem.

I would be significantly happier if I saw the total disappearance of DAP or TAP from future LP videos. No one can tell me that it is wise or healthy for a young (sometime very young) woman to be talked/fooled into attempting something that few women can do without doing serious physical damage to their anal cavity. This is especially worse when you consider that many of these women are brand new to the industry so they have no concept of what they are about to do both to their body and future marketability as a porn performer is terrible.