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I dont wanted to insert this into the "review" section, beause I still havent seen it.

Would you buy softporn DVDs with Eurogirls ?
Do you think, these non explicit softporn DVDs could interest more for real hardcore, or is it the same audience ?

Even in Germany, where the female interest in porn is very low, sometimes (young) women buy the softporn Playboy DVDs ( but more often merchandising ). But only very, very rarely hardcore.

For me it would have to be done a certain way. I'm very keen on seeing girls in heels and partially-clothed so I do find that in terms of still shots I can find "soft" shots every bit as good as hardcore stills - in fact often more so as it leaves something to the imagination.

So if there were a series that had girls in states of undress paying close attention to their curves (I'd like to see the girls bending over in heels, pulling their skirts up but keeping their knickers on, taking their tits out but keeping their bras on etc.) I'm sure I'd go for that. Like a good magazine shoot put to film, maybe, and perhaps with BTS stuff in there.

The problem is that in terms of DVDs all the "softcore" I've dabbled with just tends to have naked girls writhing around unconvincingly with toys or other girls so doesn't do it for me in the slightest.

I guess you've hit the nail on the head in that the softcore scenes I describe that I have come across are probably more geared towards women, whereas the type of stuff I like is more likely to be catered for in the tease section of a hardcore flick, albeit less so these days with the dominance of gonzo and low production values.

Maybe someone could find a middle ground?

No, I wouldn't buy softporn DVDs with Eurogirls. I prefer my movies to be hardcore (anal etc).
However, although I find softcore movie porn really lame, I love softcore in photography. I love websites ranging from Karupspc to Met-Art, I find photos of the female form to be incredibly erotic. Just not for my movies though.

Totally agree with Lee on this one. Softcore just doesn't do it for me anymore. I first got into porn via softcore and initially dismissed hardcore s being way too pervy. Gosh how things have changed. I guess once you've had a taste of 'real' and raw porn you get somewhat desensitized to the soft stuff. Actually i tried watching some soft stuff not so long ago and nearly fell asleep!! - just so tedious, drawn out andplain boring.

I realise that it does have it's appeal particulalry to women, but for me porn has to feature hard cocks, raw sex and lots of open bums! xx

Caroline-NL wrote:I dont wanted to insert this into the "review" section, beause I still havent seen it.

Would you buy softporn DVDs with Eurogirls ?
Do you think, these non explicit softporn DVDs could interest more for real hardcore, or is it the same audience ?.

No, audience is different. Softcore videos have a smaller market because softcore is now virtually available everywhere for cheap or nothing.
magazines like Linea Red (ES), Maxim (UK), Newlook (Fra) try to sell it to a younger audience but most of them are definitely more interested into hardcore.
Girls could be interested but nobody has found the way to make softcore interesting for them.

Caroline-NL wrote:Even in Germany, where the female interest in porn is very low, sometimes (young) women buy the softporn Playboy DVDs ( but more often merchandising ). But only very, very rarely hardcore.

IMHO German porn, like the Italian one, is too rough and harsh (just look at the covers) so women do not watch it.
In France the way to sell/present/discuss porn is more glamourous and there are more women watching it...often with their boyfriend!

Based on the gals I met I would say that girls could watch porn if the porn action would be sudden...after some nice petting/love declaration etc...and personally I would leave the option to watch the porn scene or to skip it. They would watch it only based on their feeling or their curiosity.
I know that it works...and they enjoyed! But that's my experience...

laura wrote:but for me porn has to feature hard cocks, raw sex and lots of open bums! xx

Now that is what I call porn!!

laura wrote:Totally agree with Lee on this one. Softcore just doesn't do it for me anymore. I first got into porn via softcore and initially dismissed hardcore s being way too pervy. Gosh how things have changed. I guess once you've had a taste of 'real' and raw porn you get somewhat desensitized to the soft stuff. Actually i tried watching some soft stuff not so long ago and nearly fell asleep!! - just so tedious, drawn out andplain boring.

I realise that it does have it's appeal particulalry to women, but for me porn has to feature hard cocks, raw sex and lots of open bums! xx

I don't disagree with all of that but I would put the converse argument that you can become desensitized to hardcore more than you can to softcore. I've seen so much gonzo hardcore porn by now that there's just no surprise factor or eroticism about seeing one of a handful of guys I've seen hundreds of times fuck a Eurobabe I've seen take it up the arse hundreds of time in piledriver anal or whatever. It's just like "Hey ho, OK, another one for the list" whereas I think you can always go back to softcore tease porn as the boundaries are more open and endless.

I think it's all about the quality of the actors and director really. I'd miles rather see a girl clearly smouldering with heat and who knows how to project it doing nothing much of anything sex-wise but allowing some exciting suggestion than see a timid, ice cold girl taking it in all holes from loads of studs for a bigger pay check.

God save me if I ever reach that point where it takes a team of cocks ramming her ass to make her exciting


To the original question, everyone is different. Some like hard only, some like soft only, some like both, some progress from soft to hard only, some people regress from hard to soft only. Generally I don't think one eases into porn, you either desire to watch hard acts or you don't.

Vulture wrote:So if there were a series that had girls in states of undress paying close attention to their curves (I'd like to see the girls bending over in heels, pulling their skirts up but keeping their knickers on, taking their tits out but keeping their bras on etc.) I'm sure I'd go for that. Like a good magazine shoot put to film, maybe, and perhaps with BTS stuff in there.

I go with this, but I am not sure I would buy it if it was all I`d get with a dvd.
In generally I find good and convincing tease with girls I fancy very hot and could often watch more of it - but it helps me to know that later on she gets her fair share of minimum 2 dicks and some hard anal of course. If this was missing I doubt I would really buy it. Well, better than condomized hardcore anytime!

An ideal solution maight be a 2 dvd edition with one featuring softcore and bts only, the other just featuring the hardcore acts. It could even have a two-sided art work cover with a softcore version on one side and a hardcore version on the other side.
What do you think?

What happened to erotica ?? After you've seen 10 anal porn clips the next one is just as boring as a re-run of a Weather Channel. Do not get the "meat and potato' crowd, give me someting fine to dine on.