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There are a lot of new .nl sites cropping up here in the listings as of lately. I mean the various anaalmeisjes.nl, anaalontmaagd.nl, tienergangbang.nl, vandaag18.nl, brilvolzaad.nl, oudneuktjong.nl, polderrape.nl, mondjeplassen.nl, etc. etc. etc. (I think that there are more than fifty of them)

They are all part of the Vpcash program and Virtual PC Services is the company seemingly behind all of it.

They seem to have mainly new (or at least never released) original material covering a lot of interesting niches and with nice babes, including some well known eurobabes that have not been otherwise particularly active as of lately, like Bibi Fox ...

I'm quite interested in some of them, mainly because they feature new material from some of my favorite babes like Margarita @ Eromaxx, Valerie Hilton, Sue aka Gwen Cortez ... but I am really being put off by the payment 'options'.

I mean, while the sites looks more than ok on the content side (with full update history and trailers), apparently there's no membership options, and instead one have to purchase each and one episode separately !?

Not only this, but you are presented with the following two payment options:

1) pay by phone (the usual call a toll number and get a code thing) but with no indication whatsoever beforehand of the actual cost (see the first attachment)

2) the 'credit card' options, which apparently (see the second attachment) means register with 'MySecureWallet' and pay per minute ...
(and again no info whatsoever at this stage since the 'terms and conditions of service' are absolutely generic and did not say anything about the specific: maybe you'll get them after registering, but honestly I was left so uneasy by the whole thing that I did not trust them even for my email address...)

Both those methods bear the hallmarks of rip-off and scam sites, especially the second one which no sane sober person (and few drunk ones) would ever entertain...
Yet I cannot believe that someone went all the length of creating/purchasing a lot of new and valid content just for setting up another chain of scam sites.

So, did anyone out there have any experience with any of these websites?

You can try Don & Ad releases (same company) http://www.donenad.net/

Their clips are great, but the quality (bitrate, résolution) is a little low for the older ones.

But I believe they propose HD clips now.

paroxysmia wrote:You can try Don & Ad releases (same company) http://www.donenad.net/

First, thanks for the tip.

... but it look that the situation is no different: you get exactly the same prw pages that when acceding directly the sites (ie for example http://anaalontmaagd.donenad.net is exactly the same page that http://anaalontmaagd.nl) with the only difference that the links don't work...


Well, I guess that I'll have to try them using my mobile with prepayed card...

Excellent thread .

Coincidentally , I wanted to open a similar thread , because I want to try to register at tienergangbang.nl , it has a lot of fresh material , with girls getting gangbanged that I´ve never seen .

I am acostumed to pay by credit card , for sites like dpfanatics , blacksonblondes , gangbangsquad , handsonhardcore etc . , and they have more or less the same prices .
But the price they offer at this dutch site is so high , that I am not sure if it is worth the try .

So if anyone has been there , please speak up .

Orso Nero wrote:First, thanks for the tip.

... but it look that the situation is no different: you get exactly the same prw pages that when acceding directly the sites (ie for example http://anaalontmaagd.donenad.net is exactly the same page that http://anaalontmaagd.nl) with the only difference that the links don't work...

Yep D&A uses the same plateform like the others sites but I spoke about the quality.

They have fresh clips and new girls from CZ, NL etc...

But for a first time, try to buy a clip from a NL paysite with HD content.

Even D&A produced clips with low standard wmv quality, but now it's better.

And lots of Virtual PC sites are not really updated, clips are old etc...

Therefore check only the new ones and weekly/monthly updated.

Well, if I were you, I'd definitely avoid these sites. The phone option works like this: You call the number, they tell you a code on the phone, which you have to enter on the site. Then you have to STAY connected with the phone as long as you're in the members area. And the price is usually somewhere between, 1.80EUR and 2.00 EUR per MINUTE, depending on your country. If you cancel the phone connection you get kicked out of the members area immediately.

If you pay by credit card you can buy a certain amount of minutes for 0.95EUR per minute. When you run out of time, your access will be shut down immediately. So, for a 20 minute scene you'd have to pay almost 20 EUR!!! Oh, and all movies are streaming flash movies only if I remember correctly. No download possible!

I can't believe that anyone can be so damn stupid to really pay such crazy prices. I only paid 10 EUR once to see how their members area works and I was horrified when I saw what a ripoff it is. Sure, scenes look nice - but well... You get 2 porn DVD's for the price you have to pay for only one single scene on their sites. Do I need to say more?

OneWhoKnows wrote:
If you pay by credit card you can buy a certain amount of minutes for 0.95EUR per minute. When you run out of time, your access will be shut down immediately. So, for a 20 minute scene you'd have to pay almost 20 EUR!!!

That was exactly what I thought .

Thanks for the information .

OneWhoKnows wrote:Well, if I were you, I'd definitely avoid these sites. The phone option works like this: You call the number, they tell you a code on the phone, which you have to enter on the site. Then you have to STAY connected with the phone as long as you're in the members area. And the price is usually somewhere between, 1.80EUR and 2.00 EUR per MINUTE, depending on your country. If you cancel the phone connection you get kicked out of the members area immediately.

If you pay by credit card you can buy a certain amount of minutes for 0.95EUR per minute. When you run out of time, your access will be shut down immediately. So, for a 20 minute scene you'd have to pay almost 20 EUR!!! Oh, and all movies are streaming flash movies only if I remember correctly. No download possible!

I can't believe that anyone can be so damn stupid to really pay such crazy prices. I only paid 10 EUR once to see how their members area works and I was horrified when I saw what a ripoff it is. Sure, scenes look nice - but well... You get 2 porn DVD's for the price you have to pay for only one single scene on their sites. Do I need to say more?

get used to it.
that model is the shape of things to come.
rapidsharing, freeloaders and the emule-addicts... someone needs to pay for your free porn.

I'm Belgian and I'm pretty familiar with those sites.

1. No download of the clips possible but most of the clips will also be released on dvd sooner or later. (check erodvd.nl under labels 'quest' and 'don&ad')

2. Very expensive to download.

3. For updates check xxx.erototaal.nl (site is in dutch)

4. xxx.vpscash.nl/index.php?url=sites&aangebr= for a list of all the sites.

5. xxx.erocasting.nl for dutch/belgian models performing in clips

erofanboy wrote:most of the clips will also be released on dvd sooner or later. (check erodvd.nl under labels 'quest' and 'don&ad')

Thanks a lot for this info!
I would never have even tried these pages, but at least now I know that I there is a chance to get my Bibi Fox still.
No need to tell you how many times I prefer dvds over online scenes!


Btw, sad as it is, but I think robot is right. But I will never understand why porn fans kill their own supply basically!

In France we have a similar & popular payment tool that's AlloPass: you call a (local) phone number to get a code but the wating time is not excessive.

After you go on the paysite and use your code to watch/dwl the clip. Sometimes for recent or huge clips, you must put 2 or 3 Allopass codes.

But finally you pay just 1.80€ or 3€ for a clip, not 20€ !! and the vid is on your HDD after that !!

paroxysmia wrote:In France we have a similar & popular payment tool that's AlloPass: you call a (local) phone number to get a code but the wating time is not excessive.

After you go on the paysite and use your code to watch/dwl the clip. Sometimes for recent or huge clips, you must put 2 or 3 Allopass codes.

But finally you pay just 1.80€ or 3€ for a clip, not 20€ !! and the vid is on your HDD after that !!

Yeah, AlloPass is definitely much better than mysecurewallet.nl - I used it once to download some Decibelle scenes Sure, about 3€ may still be expensive for just one scene, but much better than 20€ for sure.

I'have just found that this site: packofporn.com is basically (*) the english versions of the following sites:

Brilvolzaad.nl
seventeenfilms.nl
Likkenaansterren.nl
Zaaduitjenaad.nl
Ilovegloryhole.nl
Anaalmeisjes.nl

Only ... it is just 20€/month and features industry standard fully downloadable movies (max res 720x540) and even zipped photosets...

It seems that the strategy of grabbing the customers by the balls does not always work as intended

(*)
At a glance some episodes are missing, but I would say that roughly 3/4 of them are already present. Furthermore the site is just a couple of months old, and is still adding material almost daily... One can also expect/hope that maybe in the future other sites will be added....
For myself I intend to reward them staying at least a couple of months subscribed (the fact that I got the membership at a discount base as an offer on a friendly site does not hurt tooo...)

At the end of the day (if you know what your doing) everything is downloadable.

Now, I don't stand by rapidshare, emule or torrenting but I do believe that when you pay for something you should have rights to it.

If I go to the cinema I know that when I leave I will not be able to view it again, but will have seen it at its best. If I buy a DVD I know I can view it when I want. If I join a site offering video clips I guarantee you I will save them to my PC regardless of format or DRM because that is what I joined for!

It will become a vicious circle! The more sites attempt to protect their content and stop people downloading, the more likely they are to appear on torrents or emule. I am definitely not the only one around who knows how to save any movie to my hard-drive but I cannot guarantee that I am the only one who will not share said movie.

Rule of thumb is simple. The more you protect, the more you appear to be hiding something. Also, if this stuff did get torrented or muled them I am sure those who have joined said sites in the past will feel an almost irrevocable right to now save what they originally paid for.

If this is the way things are going to go then emule and torrents will only become even more popular and joining sites less popular.

Good news for all you people who thought the stuff on the vpscash sites is interesting! Payserve (guys behind Club Seventeen) released a new series of sites with some of the vpscash material. Here you go:

ilovegloryhole.nl = holeyfuck.com

likkenaansterren.nl = rimbledon.com

zaaduitjenaad.nl = analslurp.com

brilvolzaad.nl = creamedonglasses.com

anaalmeisjes.nl = analpetite.com

Content is not exactly alike, the new Payserve sites have scenes the vpscash sites don't have and vice versa. But of course the Payserve sites are not pay per minute, but normal monthly membership sites. Oh, and if you join one of the sites, you get access to the other 4 aswell. Nice deal I'd say - especially because in my opinion the vpscash way of billing is just a total ripoff!