Dither

[hardware]

A freelance agreement. To write and submit posts to the forum and DVD reviews for the database, in return for access to the website and the forum.

That's hilarious! You should read Catch-22 sometime.

[Xenomorgue]

I´d say Dither´s attempts to change the minds of the right-wing WASPs with ADT will fail.

It seems to me that the mood at ADT has changed a bit. There are now a couple of threads where American posters like RandomPrecision can express very strong opinions about racism in America. When the critical European posters were still around this was unacceptable, but now there are no fierce denials from the right-wing group.

[Nihilist]

In regards to the legal point about if or if not you have the right to use another persons website.

The answer is simply that you only have the right if given that right by the site owner or administrators. If you once had the right and that right was removed then you have no recourse in which to complain. The site is not yours and you are not responsible for the coding, the hosting or the work required to run said site and therefore have no say in how its operated.

A website domain is actually property. As it is regarded by law as property the usual aspects relating to property apply. There is no public or private debate regarding this. In the same way that a shop/public house can ban you from entering then so can a website owner.

If all websites were categorised as being of public domain, then copyright laws would be non existant. Also, it would mean a "hacker" would have the right to demand access to your domain. Spammers would also have the right to take you to court for blocking spam.

However, I believe there is a law against libel or unwarranted statements and if you were to keep continuously making bad comments about aforementioned website and to continuously make derogatory comments about the owners, then you are risking court action and not vice versa. The only worrying element is that EBI also risks libel for hosting your comments! As no one wants EBI to have to suffer, I suggest you channel your obviously intelligent and enthusiatic mind in a more productive direction.

[Nihilist]

Oh, an interesting side note though!

All posts you make on a website are actually your property. Even though the hoster is responsible for the content, etc, the posting still belongs to you.

Therefore you would be in your rights to ask aforementioned website to remove all posts that you have made, and remove any details of your person from that site.

An exclusion clause may have been set in the initial registration stating that all posts and topics created on this forum are the property of "aforementioned website". However, that is not really a valid exclusion clause as it does not take into account the complex and labourous copyright laws of most countries which would make that a totally invalid statement (i.e. If I post the lyrics on a website to a song by "Rhianna", does that website now own those lyrics!).

2257 on aforementioned site is also dodgy as it is using a ruling pre 2004 which no longer applies. There is no exemption any longer from 2257 if images shown are of an explicit nature (i.e. you cannot claim the custodian records are held with "blah blah company" if its actually your site showing them and they are of an explicit nature). That law practically crippled hundreds of Adult DVD retailers when it changed in 2004.

[Xenomorgue]

PS - Dither's not going anywhere. Dither knows how to act like an adult. He doesn't throw stink bombs. He defends his position without resorting to childish antics. He even has a wicked sense of humor, hence, "Persona non grata."

In august Dither was attacked (not for the first time!) by Billy Bathgate and other right-wingers, and then pressured by Steph into quitting the ADT. In Steph's own lovely words: "The admin doesn't give a fuck about the contents of this thread. I don't have to put up with your bullshit. I suggest you fuck off for a while or you can fuck off more permanently."

[tami flu]

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[Xenomorgue]

It appears that Mr. Hardware has little to say, now that he has been proven wrong on the position of Dither at ADT.

The reality is that there is an "inner circle" of American posters/mods at ADT who have immunity to say whatever they want (including the use of verbal abuse), while others --in particular critical minded foreigners like PincNoiz, Xeno, John Thomas, Dither-- have to be very careful what they write, and even then their account can be deactivated without reason.

Of course this is "legal". However if you claim that the ADT forum is "international" in its aspirations and has an "open-minded" and "friendly" community, and that the policies are "fair" and "impartial", then obviously something has gone wrong.

[tami flu]

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