Tmodels back? How does one know?

[Billbo]

How does one know that? No list of models. No portraits. No information at all. Just a blind signup. In other words "trust us that we have someone you want to hire for a shoot- without actually knowing anything about us." Not going to happen. And those corps that do, they might not want to actually do business with. Most in the biz see that and just go to another site. With a minimum of 2500 governments and businesses hacked by eastern European groups and China, it's not likely that many producers are going to sign up completely blind.

Is it any shock that most sites that had that practice went out of business last year?

The website is the first thing that a prospective producer, agent, model, etc. sees and the recent practice of "hidden" websites just tells them "go elsewhere".

Tmodels might have something a producer wants, but there's no way for a producer to know that. Effectively, a producer will see the site and think "no way I'm giving out corporate information completely blind."

He/she's going to think one of the following upon seeing a hidden site:
1. It's not a real site.
2. It's a scam site. Hackers, ID theft, account numbers theft, etc.
3. If it's a real site, there's something wrong with the business, such as a lack of experience, models, professionalism, etc.
4. If it's real site, there is some reason they don't want anyone to know anything about them, such as legal problems, outstanding warrants, problems with their government, etc.
5. If it's real site, is it just an escort site and not about models?
6. If it's legitimate, why should I waste my time with them if they won't state up front what models they have, what the rates for shoots are, and so on? (Time is money)

Those six alone mean that most will simply go on to the next site that actually has what they are looking for. It's easy enough: most sites don't operate that way, actually wanting the business, and so producers, photographers, etc. just go to sites that have actual information. Getting passed over is not the way to get business.

A producer complained a couple years ago about trust being the basis for the business when a model kicked him in the teeth. It's largely true: there being no way to verify much of what is claimed, you have to go on word of mouth. It's a matter trust. When sites say "I have something to hide", it raises immediate suspicions.

And then they go elsewhere.

Honestly, I don't know why I'm bothering to state all this. Do these outfits actually want to stay in business? It should be pretty obvious that if no one knows anything about a company, no one can do business with it. The appearance of dishonesty has wiped out a lot of corporations.

So what does a photographer or producer do? If he/she knows whom he/she wants to photograph or videotape, then the first thing to do is contact the agent. If that information cannot be found (not uncommon), then it's a long search via website. For a large company, this is done by employees tasked with that job. For a small company, the producer(s) will do it him/her/themselves and that means a lot of time looking if the model is not in the handful of most popular models. It's often advantageous, too, to use models who are not yet popular, because of the lower fees, which means looking at various agencies' sites to see whom they have and if they fit the "look". Someone who is starting out with no reputation might look as good as Veronika Zemanova, but if she are unknown, the fees are a fraction of what VZ would charge for a photoshoot. When sites hide, at a minimum it means that much more time wasted with hours or days added to the mix (assuming the site is real). Plus few are going to bother, for the reasons stated above.

My suggestion to make it easy for producers to pick and choose models are:
1. At a minimum: Photos of facial portraits, one in best makeup, one not in makeup. Other portraits, to give an idea of colors would be unmadeup portraits with a neutral background, and portraits with several colors in background, because one classic mistake made is that some individuals look good in some colors and against some color backdrops and look poorly against other colors.
2. A full body shot. Bikini is fine.
3. Other photos, if they are particularly outstanding.

[just_me]

In the real world, word of mouth is far more powerful for business than advertising and presentation
In the real world, few established customers and developed business relationships are far more beneficial than the masses (ever hear of the 80/20 rule?)


I'm just a nobody from nowhere, but I do help run a service business. Tmodels is doing what tmodels wants to do. And Bunny has said they are legit, his word should be good enough. If you don't trust him, then just move on to another agency.


It merely intrigues as to why you have taken such an interest in this topic

[ogpaps]

T-models has always been active.
Any talent agency in Czech rep works like that.
Blind sign up as u call it.
Register, then get your pass word to check out models.

Apply yourself, u'll see.

They provide girls to anyone, don't need to be in the industry at all.

My neighboor could book a girl.
My oncle could shoot a gang bang.
I gave the number to the friend of the friend of my friend's cousin that lived in Venezuela so he could book girls.
He did and shot his thing.

U don't need to be anybody to book girls.

[ogpaps]

http://www.unitedmodeling.com/indexa.php
http://www.pavlamodels.com/

And they're in business doing well.
I would not worry for them at all.

Same as T models...got to sign up if u want to see something...

If u don't try u'll never know...

97% of agencies have the same girls...

[Mr. Peter]

Billbo, although I think Im not enough competent to seriously comment on this topic, from my point of view you have to take into account in what country are the services provided and what country are the girls from. We are still in the middle of Europe and I think this is the only way to do this.

Well, this particular website maybe could have more location info freely available or new faces for example,
but from your point of view, the situation will be similar for the new talent wanting to register because if it was hacked or fake, they will be giving out
their personal by filling online form too.
All I want to say is if you are seriously into bussiness and are afraid of giving out your personal info, you will pick up that godmn fone and call them whats up.
It acts as a natural first line filter for bad guys and mass public. Imagine that face of your daughter spreading her ass every other day on camera will be freely available for everyone. Thats bullshit. So nothing wrong with registering IMHO.

Anyway, now I think Karl Berg agency is one of the last agencies which does have information and photos about talents freely available without signing up.

[robot]

billbo, what's your problem? get a clue