Dither

[Xenomorgue]

Has Dither become the "Token European" at ADT?

As the last remaining critical European, is he being tolerated for now by Steph so that she can show off her so-called fairness and impartiality?

Anyway, Dither himself appears not too confident about his status. He now logs in with the motto "Persona non grata", implying that he is an unwanted person at ADT whose account can be deactivated any moment.

[Walter Burns]

Let it go, man, before you really give me the impression that you are desperate bordering on pathetic. Might be too late, anyway.

btw, 'dis(cus)sing' other forums is IMO about the most pointless and futile exercise one can perform on a forum. It's bad manners too. I would be surprised if it would be tolerated here. This ain't XPT.

[Xenomorgue]

IMO posting messages at a (porn) internet forum is a world away fom the communications/contacts one has in real life or in writing (academic articles, reviews, letters, emails to friends).

A porn forum is a sleazy anonymous place where the normal rules of civility, politeness, political correctness etc barely exist. Bad English, typos, rudeness, sleazy content are the norm.

If I participate in a porn forum, I do so to have fun. I have zero interest in posts discussing whether some Natascha, age 23, from the Ukraine, enjoys having her sphincter stretched. Though I would not necessarily describe such posts as "desperate" and "pathetic".

You know what, Walter. If you want to stick to your 23 year old Nataschas, that is perfectly fine with me. By all means stick to your grey mouse role, avoid the more interesting threads, never post a political opinion.

[az]

As they said in Forrest Gump..."Run Xenomorgue run!"

[Walter Burns]

You just don't get it, do you man.

Post all the political comments you want. Have as much fun with mathematical puzzles you want. (Well, as long as you don't annoy Sbando.)

But, don't keep harping on what happened/happens on another forum. The desperate and pathetic vibe you are oozing comes from your obvious longing to be allowed to post on ADT again. Why would you keep such a close eye on ADT anyway, if you are not allowed to post?

You definetely ain't finding what you are looking for in this forum, that's for sure. "Avoid the more interesting threads". Man, you must dislike this place a lot.

[Xenomorgue]

EBI is a forum where each one of us can comment on the porn world in all its many facets. Porn stars, directors, movies past and present, DVD releases, web sites, internet resources like IAFD, online news etc.

The ADT website and its forum are obviously part of this extended porn network. Hence I don't see the slighest reason why one poster can complain about the Sineplex site, another about a webstore like Orgazmik, yet I should remain silent about ADT. The fact that you, Walter Burns, consider this "impolite" means very little to me.

By the way, I would really like to know why you care what I post or even why I choose to hang out on a porn forum. Is there any special reason? Somehow I do not recall that you ever questioned Euro's obsessive postings, or Conquistador's self-declared racism, or Alex Panzer's feable mental capabilities, or Croy's right-wing mentality etc.

[Xenomorgue]

You definetely ain't finding what you are looking for in this forum, that's for sure. Man, you must dislike this place a lot.

I recently asked Sbando for his views on the EBI forum. This is what he wrote:

"I don't think there's any community at EBI.
The only thing that keeps the people here together is girls.
You will have a tough time trying to raise the bar of the conversation.
The forum for me is just an offspring of the main site and the quickest way to get updates."

A sobering assessment, that I agree with.

[hardware]

The ADT website and its forum are obviously part of this extended porn network. Hence I don't see the slighest reason why one poster can complain about the Sineplex site, another about a webstore like Orgazmik, yet I should remain silent about ADT.

Both Sineplex and Orgazmik are retailers. One can legitimately complain about sites that are taking in your money. The closest Adult DVD Talk comes to retailing is their kickbacks program. Last I checked, neither Dither nor forum membership were included.

ADT's forums are, as has been said numerous times, a virtual house party. You participate as a guest of the owners, not as a citizen with inherent rights. If the admins feel that you are abusing your privileges as a guest then they have every right to kick you out.

Sure, you can come here and complain about it, but it's worth noting that nobody else is backing you up. In other words, that buzzing sound you hear is the bee in your bonnet.

PS - Dither's not going anywhere. Dither knows how to act like an adult. He doesn't throw stink bombs. He defends his position without resorting to childish antics. He even has a wicked sense of humor, hence, "Persona non grata."

[Xenomorgue]

ADT's forums are, as has been said numerous times, a virtual house party. You participate as a guest of the owners, not as a citizen with inherent rights. If the admins feel that you are abusing your privileges as a guest then they have every right to kick you out.

It is a question for lawyers whether ADT, a US-based commercial organization that offers its internet services to the general public, can carve for itself a legal niche where the standard consumer rights --protected under US law-- do not apply.

In the Netherlands there are discotheques who prefer white clientele. They use the doorman (sorry, we are full) and house rules (dress code, fake memberships) to put a limit on non-white guests. Obviously these discotheques violate the law. They receive a warning by the police. If they persist, they may lose their license and will be forced to close down.

[Xenomorgue]

Dither has a wicked sense of humor, hence, "Persona non grata."

Sure, and he wickedly refers to himself as "Persona non grata" since his last European buddy, John Thomas, was banned.

[STEMCELL]

Dither has a wicked sense of humor, hence, "Persona non grata."

Sure, and he wickedly refers to himself as "Persona non grata" since his last European buddy, John Thomas, was banned.

The Rank title can only be changed by an ADMIN, as I changed yours
I don´t know whether Dither asked for the "Persona non grata" title or if ADT Admins assigned it to him.

I´d say Dither´s attempts to change the minds of the right-wing WASPs with ADT will fail.

[Xenomorgue]

Thank you STEMCELL, I appreciate the gesture !!!

[hardware]

The Rank title can only be changed by an ADMIN...

I'm well aware of that fact. I'm also aware of the fact that many people have asked steph to have their title changed. Given that neither steph nor drew tend to beat around the bush, I'm willing to bet Dither asked for the title.

[hardware]

It is a question for lawyers whether ADT, a US-based commercial organization that offers its internet services to the general public, can carve for itself a legal niche where the standard consumer rights --protected under US law-- do not apply.

Exactly what commercial transaction have you ever conducted with Adult DVD Talk? ADT is a referrer which charges the retailers, not the customers, for its services. Since you've never paid them a dime you have no contract, real or implied to bring before a court.

However, if you believe you have the legal right to participate in the ADT forums then I'm sure you can cite the relevant statute. Pardon me, but I won't hold my breath waiting.

[Xenomorgue]

Exactly what commercial transaction have you ever conducted with Adult DVD Talk?

A freelance agreement. To write and submit posts to the forum and DVD reviews for the database, in return for access to the website and the forum.

ADT is a referrer which charges the retailers, not the customers, for its services.

It is simply more convenient (administratively, financially, fiscally) for all parties involved that the reviewers/posters are not paid for their contributions and that the access to the website remains free of charge.

Since you've never paid them a dime you have no contract, real or implied to bring before a court.

The fact that no money is being paid, does not mean that there is no contract. Let us say you make a deal with a prostitute to wash her car in return for sex. You don't pay her, she does not pay you. Yet the authorities will undoubtedly claim this clever deal still constitutes prostitution.

If you believe you have the legal right to participate in the ADT forums then I'm sure you can cite the relevant statute.

Once you have signed up and ADT has confirmed the deal by providing you a password, you become a customer and as such you are entitled to basic rights that are protected under US law. For example the right to fair and transparent terms of service; the right to equal treatment, non-discrimination and fairness; the right to an effective system for the handling of complaints.