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Postby Xenomorgue on Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:24 am

Euro wrote:Rammstein are nazis.


Do they write fascist or racist lyrics?
Do they use Third Reich symbols or attibutes?
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Postby Euro on Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:21 pm

Xenomorgue wrote:
Euro wrote:Rammstein are nazis.


Do they write fascist or racist lyrics?
Do they use Third Reich symbols or attibutes?


Nazis from today don´t do it this way. But you hear things from many people. You don´t hear it on television. You hear it from Friends and other people. You know, you have to get together with people. What media shows you, is just that what they want you to see. Rammstein are the last thing you should get into. The most fans of them are also full of hate. The most people don´t understand that Rammstein want to bring back good old german "things". Marylin Manson and other freaks are something complete different. They just are freaky, against many things and they are wild. But trying to bring back the german past with lyrics that are allusive in consideration of the Third Reich is bad. Germany is still full of people like Adolf Hitler. Many people like that just want attention so they can affect young people. The music is not the problem. I like their music, but I don´t listen to it, because of their wrong lyrical behavior in consideration of the past from germany.
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Postby Xenomorgue on Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:23 pm

As I see it, there are indeed bands whose members have a neo-nazi or white supremacist background. These bands are usually qualitatively second grade; they openly flirt with Third Reich attributes and symbols (swastika); their CDs are underground (small labels); their lyrics are full of hatred and violence; their fan base is small but very loyal; they perform in local clubs and at right-wing concerts.

I just don't see how any of this applies to Rammstein. They are big, they are professional, their lyrics are not particularly racist but instead ambiguous and controversial. It is certainly possible that there are neo-nazis who like the band (e.g. for their bombastic, almost militaristic, metal sound and their macho posturing), but obviously the vast majority of the Rammstein fan base consists of ordinary people.
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