Implants, poor profits and complaining porn directors,Oh, My

[Billbo]

I get a kick out of the nasal complaints from the webmasters on this website. Complaining about lack of profit in porn when the basic problem is a general lack quality in the industry versus the massive quantity of junk. Now, the whine is silicone. What is interesting is that many of the models who have silicone implants were not listed and have actually been listed as “natural”, proving that some implants are good enough to fool the webmasters. Kate Jones, Luisa Rosselini, and a number of other “busty” models have older photosets where they are flat or close to it and then ZAP! in the next photoset, they have a D cup.

Ironically, many with natural breasts look fake, also proving that the problem is not necessarily implants. Some women look better with implants, some look worse. Let the viewers make that judgement. Just because something is natural, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better. Lead and arsenic are natural, just as roses and diamonds are natural.

One reason for the implants is that many men like curves in women, rather than the skinny, arrow-straight look so prevalent in modeling today. It’s a matter of personal choice. I personally prefer a C cup, but the face is by far the most important for me. Faces are pretty much ignored by most porn producers. Most of the models for 2007 and 2008 to date are much below average in facial prettiness. It can’t help but impact the industry when most models now are downright ugly. A lot of the makeup is awful, too, making a reasonably good-looking model look terrible. Background color sometimes clashes with a model’s skin and hair and sometimes even the hair color the model has used clashes with her skin. How many want to shell out 20 to 50 euros to see a woman who looks less attractive than the average person they see, every day? Porn is about fantasy. Most porn now is plug and chug, with a hundred websites showing the same yukky models in the same sets, doing the same thing.

A lot of the ugly models are now spending money on implants to get more work in a market that is increasingly saturated.

As a general rule, the more attractive a woman is, the less likely she will work in porn, if the EBI and other indexes are any example. Maybe the porn producers need to produce less with better quality. A few do, but most just crank out the junk. Maybe the producers should pay the models more to get the ones with better looks?

Quality. Not just quantity.

Same reason less than 20% of the population watches movies in the U.S. The quality went to heck.

Given the number of pretty girls out there, why do the porn producers generally pick the less pretty ones? It’s cheaper, maybe, but how many dvds does one sell?

Vivid cleans up by offering quality. So do a handful of others.

Another problem is the prevalence of lesbianism. Roughly half the guys out there are turned off by it, but that is the current fad among models and producers, because a lot of models will do homosexual acts rather than heterosexual acts. It’s not a wise choice by businessmen to get rid of half the potential audience at the onset.

[Xenomorgue]

^ IMO this post should be moved to the Eurogirls forum.

[Billbo]

I still think the ranting is funny. The cost of each shoot has actually gone down in the last decade- the equipment is a LOT cheaper. When was the last time you could buy digital-quality camera for £1400 or $2000 or 1500DM in 1999? Digital media rather than film, the technical cost is almost HALVED what it was a decade ago. Film and film development is a lot more expensive than digital is now and the results are a lot easier to get. At least here in the West it has. I've noted that eastern Europe has gotten more expensive, but given that 20 years ago, it was under "scientific socialism", it has to become more expensive in all goods as eastern economies advance to first world status. 20 years ago, what were cut-rate outfits like Club or Hustler spent more on a single shoot that you folks do on a month of shoots. An expensive one like Playboy would spend more on a shoot than one of you producers does in a year now, even with currency devaluations. Film-based photography was very expensive, especially when 12"/30cm negatives were used.

Despite the drastic drop in the costs of producing pornography in the west, all one hears from our friends to the east is whining about the cost and the lack of profit. Most of the porn is junk, produced with bad lighting- no excuse for that, especially as a good digital processing program runs about 250 euros. A matter of adjusting the brightness and contrast (occasionally gamma, light curves and other factors, but usually just the brightness and especially, contrast). How hard is it to correct the lighting if the camera had a problem? An entire set can be done in an hour, generally.

Outstanding work can be had for 10k to 20k euros, total cost for a video. And it generally pays well, too, when it comes time to sell. No need for supermodels. In fact, from what one hears, most supermodels aren't that great- they are the product of hype. The average woman on the street is generally fairly attractive and it's not hard to find women who are above average. (A few areas of England, Wales and the U.S. are not that way, unfortunately, but they are the exception, not the rule. Never visit the Seattle area of the U.S. Never, ever seen so many overweight people in my life. Contrast that with Portland, where most are in shape.) That is why it's so incomprehensible that the porn industry has gone to the nasty-looking ones. I think the reason is most "studios" are on-the-brink operations that have one camera, have a tiny budget and have only 100 euros to pay somebody. The internet allows that kind of thing. Ten pounds and you have a site. Most of the stuff out there is trash.

As such, much of it will go out of business. That is part of business. If there are too many outfits for the customers, then some are going out.

It's not the quality operations that are going out of business.

[sbando]

I get a kick out of the nasal complaints from the webmasters on this website.

?????????

[robot]

Luisa Rosselini, and a number of other “busty” models have older photosets where they are flat or close to it and then ZAP! in the next photoset, they have a D cup.
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As a general rule, the more attractive a woman is, the less likely she will work in porn, if the EBI and other indexes are any example
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Another problem is the prevalence of lesbianism. Roughly half the guys out there are turned off by it

with facts like this, who needs lies?
it's like you're living on a different planet with only monkeys and no women, and you're watching porn dvds. but hey, you expressed some opinion

[LoveAvenue]

Ironically, many with natural breasts look fake, also proving that the problem is not necessarily implants.

Get those eyes checked dude.

[robot]

Ironically, many with natural breasts look fake, also proving that the problem is not necessarily implants.

Get those eyes checked dude.

the "brain" as well.

[Camarillobrillo]

Honestly i think this post should be moved back to the nonsense forum.

To me it looks like a quintessential piece of nonsense
and the author, showing a great deal of foresight
had originally placed it exactly where it ought to be...in the nonsense.

No offence meant just my opinion...

[Billbo]

As they say, the truth hurts.

When an argument cannot be won, the opponent resorts to insults.

Keep the insults going, fellows.

[sbando]

I mean, you think you made a serious point there ?!?
We're not producers, for fuck's sake. Go tell that to the people who make the product.

If your message was that piracy is acceptable when the product is so low in quality again what the hell have we to do with it?
Just because every newbie kid can download the latest album or the latest movie that doesn't mean that it's right.
And if you complain about porn, what about mainstream music and cinema?

Not to mention the fact that as long as I'm the one who pays the bills I will write whatever the fuck I want. If there's something that's going to stop here is the waste of bandwidth that this forum most of the times is.

[robot]

As they say, the truth hurts.

When an argument cannot be won, the opponent resorts to insults.

Keep the insults going, fellows.

looks like someone's really really into his reality

have fun passing the torch of Truth to your fellow humans.
from my little planet, all I see is a funny little guy with hairy feet and no sense of ridicule.