any other female posters? If so please say hi !

[laura]

Wear your seventeen t-shirt with pride hey? Dont blame you really. I have been checkin out the seventeen web site, some sexy cuties on there. Are they mainly dutch teenies on there? Are you a member caroline? X

[Caroline-NL]

Are they mainly dutch teenies on there? Are you a member caroline?

No and No. Many now are east-european and russian too, I was only a Paysite member years ago.
I am not such a big fan of the new stuff they put out, its still some of the best generic porn material released, but it hasnt to do much with with original idea of this series. The name of the series alone now is misleading.

[hopless3]

The name of the series alone now is misleading.

The name is slightly illeagl

[Caroline-NL]

Maybe in Texas and the Vatican.
At least the title "Yesterday I was Seventeen" is legal in the USA.
But its true, the few offical US releases of Seventeen are titled "Sweethearts from Europe".
But I am not sure, if the title alone is illegal in all US states.

You were (nearly) adult with 16 until 1.10.02 in the NLs.
( In fact, we had a splitted adult age. You had all adult rights with 18, but the majority of the rights with 16. ). They also produced porn with models +16 until the late 90s. Our § 240 "porn law" had a 16 years of minimum age, not 18. But the US had a 16 years of minimum age too until 79.

[dap-addict]

It's great to see Laura & Caroline posting again.

I think it's important to get a female perspective on porn. I hope more women come here & not be put off to post. We guys may be porn lovers but that doesn't mean we disrespect women, totally the oppposite.

Totally agree!
I think discussing about porn here on this forum and everywhere we always have to remember that porn is a fantasy and nothing more. Misogynie on the other hand is shown by deads, language on forums included. At EBI I have really seldom seen any rude or disrespectful comments about the porn girls, women in general and the women having joined the forum. I also think that any open minded person reading our discussions here realizes that there are hundrets of porn fetishes and thus hundrets of demands to the producers and performers voiced here - some more some less, some more vocal, some less. Just as in real life. But unless real life everybody has the same lobbying possibilities here - if they can write in english that is.
I dream about a women`s section with girls lobbying for their porn needs one day. But reading laura I doubt they will be so much different than ours.
It probabely all comes down to passion transferred in front of a camera and the way this is filmed and boxed afterwards. I could actually immagine exactly the same film with different box cover texts - one for the typical male German client - with lots of Mistbiest, Arschkrater etc. , one for the typical international male client and one for porn-loving girls.


Btw, as for 666/Thompson: it`s not my style of porn, but I dont see any problem here. The problem starts if 666-fans start to treat women in real life like they see in films. Thus better pornfan X. watches 15 GGG/666 over the weekend instead of doing something bad.

[laura]

Beautifully put dap addict! It annoys me when i hear prudes calling porn mysoginyst how dare they. I have so much respect for porn babes and see them as heroines. At the end of the day it is the girls who control porn. Without us there is no porn x

[Lee]

Some people I have come across in life have looked down on me for enjoying porn. They think I could have no respect for women because of it. Once they know me they realise I'm a decent guy who just adores women.
Yes, I like hard porn, but hard porn & degradation are two completely different things.

[dap-addict]

Some people I have come across in life have looked down on me for enjoying porn.

Looking down on guys because they enjoy porn, looking down on girls because they star in porn films, looking down on girls because they enjoy porn, looking down on girls because they do sex work...It all gets me really mad!
It`s such a prude bigot thing! Look at some of the mainstream advertizements and I a hundred times prefer Rocco with his intense and sometimes twisted lust for the female body and 99% of those 7800+ EBI posters just indulging in porn of any kind, hard, soft any kind...but always with the girls in the centre as real heroins.

[laura]

All my heroines and idols are all porn babes, i respect them more than any pop star or film star. They make me proud to be a woman. Besides they are more beautiful and sexy than these so called 'sexy' celebs who dont get naked and fuck cocks for a livin x

[dap-addict]

All my heroines and idols are all porn babes, i respect them more than any pop star or film star. They make me proud to be a woman. Besides they are more beautiful and sexy than these so called 'sexy' celebs who dont get naked and fuck cocks for a livin x

The thing is a lot of `celebs` did actually fuck at some stage to get where they wanted to in the showbiz. But that`s only talked about behind their backs. How much more straight is it just to fuck for a living as a porn girl, but than have younger and more attractive guys to fuck and takeing maximum joy out of it, too!

To me, my porn heroines are also much more autentic. There are acts - like dap for instance - when even the best actress cannot play anymore and it turns to genuine 1:1 reaction. To push the enveloppe and really strip all contenace in front of a camera is a true heroine`s task.

[dap-addict]

Beautifully put dap addict! It annoys me when i hear prudes calling porn mysoginyst how dare they.

I think it`s this twisted prudes concept of denying girls (and boys) to enjoy lust.
It`s so short sighted, when misogynist actually is denying girls to choose their own jobs and be they in the sex industry and to do with their body what they want. Porn in this terms is form of worshipping lust and girls providing it. It`s nothing to do with misogyny at all.
And porn fans? I`d rather ask you girls posting here: Did you yet meet a misogynist amongst us here on EBI?

[laura]

Imho virtually none of the comments i have read do i consider to be anti women. In fact exactly the opposite. You guys all genuinely adore the babes that push the limits in porn and rightly so. I love this forum and have been treated with respect also xx

[Lee]

I love this forum and have been treated with respect also xx

And you deserve to be treated with respect Laura.

I may be generalising, but I think some women may have mixed feelings towards us guys & our attitude towards women. I could be wrong but I've come across too much negativity regarding porn from people in everyday life.

[dap-addict]

I love this forum and have been treated with respect also xx

And you deserve to be treated with respect Laura.

I may be generalising, but I think some women may have mixed feelings towards us guys & our attitude towards women. I could be wrong but I've come across too much negativity regarding porn from people in everyday life.

Every women deserves to be treated with respect, Dave.

About those mixed feelings a lot of them stem from prejudices and not knowing the subject. Sadly most mainstream media depict the porn biz completely twisted round. Frustrated experts and politicians instead of just giving in to lust and enjoy all the possibilities provided do the rest. A lot of women (and men) read this distorted prude views, get it forced down their throat on tv.
Now telling girls about your hobby you have to take that into account.
Anyway, there are always open minded folks somewhere, you just need to luck to meet them.

[Lee]

I don't really watch porn when I'm in a relationship as my desires are completely focused elsewhere! So only a handful of women, girlfriends & friends, have known about my interest in porn. Those close to me don't have a problem as they know I'm an OK guy. It's when someone doesn't really know me that they make assumptions that I'm part of this system which they think degrades women. Total bollocks!

Don't get me wrong, alot of people are more open minded these days. it's just the few who really don't understand.

We only live once. We should enjoy our lust & sex. Those prudes probably lead boring lives & are missing out!